In Conversation: Episode 2: Is Conversation Action? Thursday 1 May 2025

In this episode of the In Conversation Podcast, David and John explore the evolving boundaries of Conversational Leadership, diving into whether conversation itself can be considered a form of action. They reflect on how the value of a conversation—not just its outcome—may be more important than whether it produces immediate, visible results.

David shares his thoughts on the “adjacent possible” and how conversations unlock new directions for thought and learning. John connects this to his work in knowledge management, organizational development, and Gestalt therapy, highlighting how conversation influences change across diverse fields. They both agree that meaningful dialogue is often undervalued because it isn’t seen as “doing.”

Challenging the idea that talk is passive, they reframe the question: not “Is conversation action?” but “Is it valuable?” They also discuss ego, deep listening, and the surprising ways collective learning might be evolving through digital platforms.